Response to shawns " Proving god"

	Duration: 05:03 minutes Upload Time: 07-03-04 16:36:25 User: g0at :::: Favorites
Description: I will post this as a response when I get home tonight, for now check out his video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEXGKzH0F9c
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dankasaurus ::: Favorites Excellent video! It's awesome to see someone thinking as clearly as you. Keep it up. 07-08-25 03:22:52 _____________________________________________________
spillie11 ::: Favorites Hello Mr. goat...I wish I could convey to you the reason you should believe in the "fairy tale,"...anyways, you were nice and mellow in your video, not being ugly, and that is so refreshing. 07-08-23 00:38:31 _____________________________________________________
storefedelortenick ::: Favorites Explore god?. Is that like asking him to use his imagination? 07-08-22 06:09:14 _____________________________________________________
JimboJoy ::: Favorites I dont how understand how that you can say that, you cant proove the existance of god, when ur athiest bretheren love "proving" that god doesnt exist. Also, leave the kid alone for christ sake. 07-08-18 11:18:54 _____________________________________________________
Odd75057 ::: Favorites Yes I understand that it is impossible to prove anything in science... so my question is... why use it as a reliable source to base what you believe on? idk if you believe in evolution or not but many athiests do 07-08-09 08:57:48 _____________________________________________________
lostnhere ::: Favorites I think theres one statement both people who believe in any Higher Power and Athiest can agree on. And that is: Just as there is the possibility of Mulitple Dimensions, there is a possibility of a God. Quantum Physics States ANYTHING Is Possible. Keep an Open Mind, Who ever you are. 07-08-09 08:48:52 _____________________________________________________
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jerrod7890 ::: Favorites remeber atheist think we just die and have no existence after death. well say if an atheist was to lose his or her life tomorrow. and they havent found one fact about evolution. so they die only knowing another "mans" imagination and not facts. wouldnt that be sad?..... 07-08-08 19:02:40 _____________________________________________________
storefedelortenick ::: Favorites No. 07-08-22 06:06:53 _____________________________________________________
Abudais ::: Favorites Great video! Wished there where more normal thinking people like you. VenomFangX really is a sad kid. 07-08-05 13:33:03 _____________________________________________________
Sevensplaugue ::: Favorites Im an athiest, and you made a great point. And BTW, he is ignorant. You can tell that, he doesnt want to accept anything else but what he belives and thats what makes him ignorant. Great video man. 07-08-04 03:11:24 _____________________________________________________
djmuirhead ::: Favorites Hey g0at Science certainly suggests that time started a finite time ago. The 2nd law of thermodynamics says : The amount of energy available for work in the universe is running out, or entropy. Thus we can logically conclude that the universe existed a finite amount of time because if it didn't all the energy available for work would have been used up. 07-07-31 21:50:03 _____________________________________________________
GreenDragon23 ::: Favorites djmuirhead, VenomFangX IS engaging in a false dilemma. He says: "either everything came from nothing (which is impossible), or something always existed and created us" There are other options that he is ignoring, THIS is why it is a false dilemma. He discounts the possibility that something always existed, but was not created nor did it create, etc. (C...) 07-08-02 12:27:08 _____________________________________________________
GreenDragon23 ::: Favorites BTW - science has not made any claim on the state of the universe before 1.0 x 10^-43 seconds after the big bang. Also, the universe, in its current state, would seem to be heading towards heat death, BUT it also could go through cycles (there are some interesting astrophysical hypothese on this idea). We do not have enough data at this time, and we may never have enough, to determine if the universe is truly heading for heat death OR if it is cyclic. 07-08-02 12:32:12 _____________________________________________________
GreenDragon23 ::: Favorites The universe may even act in a way different from the two basic hypotheses that I speak of. The simple fact of the matter is this: we simply don't have enough data yet to determine how exactly the universe functions (in terms of time, cycles, etc.) 07-08-02 12:34:40 _____________________________________________________
djmuirhead ::: Favorites Science also suggests that matter and time cannot exist without one another. For example if there is no matter at all what are we using to measure time? If there is no time how can matter exist- for as soon as something (matter) comes into existence it begins to act as a yard stick (measurer of time) 07-07-31 21:49:22 _____________________________________________________
arrozador ::: Favorites Where exactly did you find the claim that matter and time are dependent of each other? "If there is no time how can matter exist" Response: Why not? What properties of time negates the existence of matter and vice-versa. "or as soon as something (matter) comes into existence it begins to act as a yard stick (measurer of time)" Response: How does matter measure time? Time, matter, (and space) are independent variables. 07-08-10 05:14:27 _____________________________________________________
SetFireToTheLand ::: Favorites Where exactly did you find the claim that matter and time are dependent of each other? "If there is no time how can matter exist" Response: Why not? What properties of time negates the existence of matter and vice-versa. "or as soon as something (matter) comes into existence it begins to act as a yard stick (measurer of time)" Response: How does matter measure time? Time, matter, (and space) are independent variables. 07-08-10 05:18:15 _____________________________________________________
SetFireToTheLand ::: Favorites My mistake. If you plan to respond, please address this account. The other one is my brother's, and he does not like discussing science anyways. 07-08-10 05:18:58 _____________________________________________________
djmuirhead ::: Favorites Also your description of the things Shawn is saying as a false dillema is in accurate. A false dillema can only be described as such when a jump is made from statement A (all dogs are animals) to statement B (therefore all animals are dogs) without considering whether or not statement A discounts any other logical possibility except statement B. 07-07-31 21:48:54 _____________________________________________________
djmuirhead ::: Favorites So a logical fallacy would exist if the person stating the above points A and B were to say to himself: If all Dogs are animals then it must be true that all animals are Dogs because there is no other logical possibility that can occur. 07-07-31 21:48:20 _____________________________________________________